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  This topic is about my 1980 Triumph TR8
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Pat.L Patrick Ledford
New Wilmington, PA, USA   USA
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I was under the front of my TR8 this morning and I noticed some broken pieces of plastic that looked like some type of shield that was under the radiator bracket. Rimmers does not show this and the OEM calls it an under body panel only for A/C cars. it looks like I may have to make one. Does anybody have a photo or has any one made one?

I also attached a couple of pictures of my A/C hoses at that location. Are they supposed to hang down that far. Seems they would inter fer with that under panel.



Patrick
1980 TR8 DHC TPVDV8AT209637
1959 TR3A TS50063LO
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darrellwalker Darrell Walker
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1966 Triumph TR4A "Christy"
1981 Triumph TR8 "Kate"
Here is what it looks like, installed and all by itself.



Darrell Walker
66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L
81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206
Vancouver, WA, USA


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TR8todd Todd Kishbach
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And those don't look like any of the AC hoses I have ever run across on a TR8. I'm guessing those are remakes. Here are some of the original hoses. Just so happen to have taken and sent this photo over the weekend to a board member. The hose part is a heavy braided plastic and the metal tubes are much longer that what you have.


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Pat.L Patrick Ledford
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When I first saw these photos on my phone I thought they were the top hoses. But, when looking on my Desk Top I saw the differences.
As I am still trying to decide whether to keep the A/C in the car, this hose difference just adds to the remove it column.

In reply to # 1607733 by TR8todd And those don't look like any of the AC hoses I have ever run across on a TR8. I'm guessing those are remakes. Here are some of the original hoses. Just so happen to have taken and sent this photo over the weekend to a board member. The hose part is a heavy braided plastic and the metal tubes are much longer that what you have.



Patrick
1980 TR8 DHC TPVDV8AT209637
1959 TR3A TS50063LO
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Western Pennsylvania Triumph Association
North Coast Triumph Association
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Pat.L Patrick Ledford
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When I looked at the drawing in the OEM the pate looked flat. This looks like a second air scoop to bring air between the radiator and the A/C condenser. I can't copy that diagram but the location is 76.10.50

In reply to # 1607730 by darrellwalker Here is what it looks like, installed and all by itself.



Patrick
1980 TR8 DHC TPVDV8AT209637
1959 TR3A TS50063LO
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Western Pennsylvania Triumph Association
North Coast Triumph Association
Scions of Britain

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1966 Triumph TR4A "Christy"
1981 Triumph TR8 "Kate"
In reply to # 1608151 by Pat.L When I looked at the drawing in the OEM the pate looked flat. This looks like a second air scoop to bring air between the radiator and the A/C condenser. I can't copy that diagram but the location is 76.10.50

The condenser and radiator are so close that I suspect the scoop feeds both.

When I first got my car, I also noticed the reference to the underbelly pan in the ROM. The consensus was that it was never installed in production. I have thought about trying to fab something, just to see if it would help with keeping all of the crap getting into my engine compartment.



Darrell Walker
66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L
81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206
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My Jan 77 preprod TR8 coupe #0008 has that pan. Never saw one on another coupe including my number #0025 coupe

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Pat.L Patrick Ledford
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According to the ROM (not the OEM which I wrote before) only the A/C cars were to get that pan. So does #0008 have A/C and #0025 does not? When ever you get a chance could you post a picture and we can see if it is different than Darrell's

In reply to # 1608187 by TR8todd My Jan 77 preprod TR8 coupe #0008 has that pan. Never saw one on another coupe including my number #0025 coupe



Patrick
1980 TR8 DHC TPVDV8AT209637
1959 TR3A TS50063LO
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Western Pennsylvania Triumph Association
North Coast Triumph Association
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Rover827 Rich Truett
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This is a photo from that 90-mile car on ebay right now.

This part was very easily damaged and is often missing.

I was shocked to find that my 1981 with 89,000 miles has its air deflector not only in place, but in perfect condition.


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#8 had AC. Not sure about AC on #25. I got #25 in enough pieces to build two TR8s a couple of years ago, along with an identical TR7 coupe. Los of things could have changed on that car, and lots more are going to change. I talked to an old buddy of mine last night. We both owned #1033. He says he still has the panel from #1033 in his stash of parts from when he sold that car. I don't remember it being on the car, but that was almost 30 years ago when I owned it briefly. Like most of the TR8s I have owned. I rescued it and got it into good hands. Think that car is in the Virginia / Carolina region of the country now, and has changed hands at least 4 times since I dragged it out of a garage shared with an early Nova North of Boston in 1990 or so. Oddly enough, when I went to pick up that car, there was another TR8 for sale on the same cul-de-sac. Neither guy knew the other guy had a TR8. The other one was a Bordeaux red metalic 81 with a brownish tan convertible top. Car was absolutely immaculate and overpriced. Never saw it again. Always wondered what happened to that car.

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about 1 month and 4 days later...
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dhuddleson David Huddleson
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Todd,

The fibreboard panel you found on your ACN Coupe #00008 was standard on all those ACN series cars that had A/C. My Tahiti Blue Coupe ACN01063 also had it. Triumph seems to have dropped it for the later TCN Coupes and all TR8 convertibles (all with A/C fitted). It was an annoying panel anyway, because you always seemed to be removing it to do any work under the car!!! I have a brand-new one (underbelly panel) here that I have attempted to fit up on later A/C and non-A/C TR8's without any real success.

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POW Peter Wirth
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In reply to # 1608332 by Rover827 This is a photo from that 90-mile car on ebay right now.

This part was very easily damaged and is often missing.

I was shocked to find that my 1981 with 89,000 miles has its air deflector not only in place, but in perfect condition.

I have the same panel on My '81, but I can't eat off mine. - Pete

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The panel on the #8 car is made from aluminum. About the same thickness as a road sign. I just assumed they were all aluminum. That car was wrecked in the nose before I got it. Story was an executive from BL in NJ owned the car. He was heading to Cape Cod when he got in an accident on the highway. Car ended up in a local junkyard where the PO bodyman bought it and fixed it just to flip it. When I bought the car, it had a single bulge hood that was later replaced. Its possible the belly pan was damaged and the guy that put the car back together made one out of aluminum. Mike Perkins says he has one hanging in his garage down in Maryland that came off the #1033 coupe. Never thought to ask him what material it was. Anybody know where 1033 is now? It changed hands several times up here in just a handful of years. I found it up on the North shore of Boston and sold it to Dave Abbott. Then it went to Perkins, then to Jeff Goldsten, and then went down South. Now Abbott and Jeff have silver verts, I have two silver verts, and Mike just bought back his MGBGT... no more TR8s. confused smiley I'd be willing to bet Mike would let it go if somebody has to have it. He sent me a text last night saying his MGB is showing up on Monday. That car has been missing for over 20 years. Turns out its only covered 20 miles since Mike sold it and the title is still in his name, but it somehow ended up in Maine.

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about 1 year and 3 months later...
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80TR8DROPTOP1 Silver Member Troy Legeaux
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1980 Triumph TR8 "Christian"
This air scoop is in addition to the front spoiler on the car? I have never seen one of these. Do not have this on my car.

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bowen6951 Gold Member rob bowen
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Hi All,
a friend of mine was a BL regional tech at that time and he told me those belly pans came in the trunk when delivered, the dealer was supposed to install them. I made my own out of ABS. Thanks, Rob

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