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Replace Fuel Pump
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Bruce Metcalf
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The car died on Saturday and it looks like the fuel pump failed. There is gas to the pump, but the floatbowls are empty. I can blow through the line to the carbs. Anyway I don't have a shutoff valve in the line from the tank and I need a way to plug/cap the line while I replace the pump. I tried a pencil stuck in the end, but that leaked. Any other ideas?
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Also you can place car in a position where the front end is elevated. As you are dealing with gravity feed. You need to get it high enough to prevent gravity flow. If the fuel tank is very low it should be easy to do this.
Jack up front end or park on a steep driveway. One I also used was to use two pieces of flat wood and vice grip pliers to squeeze the wood pieces placed over the rubber portion of the fuel line.
I have opted to buy a shutoff valve from a motorcycle. 5/16" in and out. It is compact and not noticeable.
Charley
Jack up front end or park on a steep driveway. One I also used was to use two pieces of flat wood and vice grip pliers to squeeze the wood pieces placed over the rubber portion of the fuel line.
I have opted to buy a shutoff valve from a motorcycle. 5/16" in and out. It is compact and not noticeable.
Charley
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None of the black rubber hose I had was suitable for slipping over the ferrule, so I used some clear tubing I had, long enough to reach above the level in the tank.
I got the pump off and I think I see why it stopped working. The stamped projections on the operating rod that engage the lever have bent off. The photo isn't well focused. I have a new pump on the way and intend to order a rebuild kit to have on hand for the future. Not much help at roadside, but I'll get back on the road sooner than searching for in-stock pumps.
One bonus from this is that I figured out what the shortened 1/4" drive 1/2" socket in my toolbox was for. I made it a few years ago for removing the rear nut on the pump flange, then forgot why I modified the socket.
I got the pump off and I think I see why it stopped working. The stamped projections on the operating rod that engage the lever have bent off. The photo isn't well focused. I have a new pump on the way and intend to order a rebuild kit to have on hand for the future. Not much help at roadside, but I'll get back on the road sooner than searching for in-stock pumps.
One bonus from this is that I figured out what the shortened 1/4" drive 1/2" socket in my toolbox was for. I made it a few years ago for removing the rear nut on the pump flange, then forgot why I modified the socket.
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In reply to # 1922469 by ducbsa
... Not much help at roadside, but I'll get back on the road sooner than searching for in-stock pumps....
For on-the-road fuel pump failures I carry an inexpensive electric pump that can be quickly plumbed into the line from the tank over to the carbs. Wired to connect to the white wire side of the coil so it is controled by the ignition switch.
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If you do not want to install a cut-off valve then at least keep a couple of "hose pinchers" in the boot...
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In reply to # 1923059 by ducbsa
Nice, but think of the lost concours points!
Well stated, guy with the nameless fuel pump with cross-head screws
Do I understand you correctly (on your photo there in nothing to see):
on your repro pump the two clips moved out, which are holding the pump's shaft in the pump housing?
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In reply to # 1923143 by Z320
Well stated, guy with the nameless fuel pump with cross-head screws
I knew I should have blurred those screws!
Do I understand you correctly (on your photo there in nothing to see):
on your repro pump the two clips moved out, which are holding the pump's shaft in the pump housing?
This is what the diaphragm shaft should look like and on mine the ears are bent away and no longer were hooked on the operating lever.
In reply to # 1923059 by ducbsa
Nice, but think of the lost concours points!
Well stated, guy with the nameless fuel pump with cross-head screws
I knew I should have blurred those screws!
Do I understand you correctly (on your photo there in nothing to see):
on your repro pump the two clips moved out, which are holding the pump's shaft in the pump housing?
This is what the diaphragm shaft should look like and on mine the ears are bent away and no longer were hooked on the operating lever.
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