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Replace Fuel Pump
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  This topic is about my 1966 Triumph TR4A
ducbsa Bruce Metcalf
Berryville, VA, USA   USA
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The car died on Saturday and it looks like the fuel pump failed. There is gas to the pump, but the floatbowls are empty. I can blow through the line to the carbs. Anyway I don't have a shutoff valve in the line from the tank and I need a way to plug/cap the line while I replace the pump. I tried a pencil stuck in the end, but that leaked. Any other ideas?

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sampattr250 Sam P
Harwinton, CT, USA   USA
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short piece of hose 2 small hose clamps and a bolt



Sam

1968 TR250
1972 MK IV Spitfire

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charleyf Silver Member Charley Fitch
Redding, CA, USA   USA
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1959 Triumph TR3A "YUP"
1962 Triumph TR4
1963 Triumph TR4 "MR.T"
Also you can place car in a position where the front end is elevated. As you are dealing with gravity feed. You need to get it high enough to prevent gravity flow. If the fuel tank is very low it should be easy to do this.
Jack up front end or park on a steep driveway. One I also used was to use two pieces of flat wood and vice grip pliers to squeeze the wood pieces placed over the rubber portion of the fuel line.
I have opted to buy a shutoff valve from a motorcycle. 5/16" in and out. It is compact and not noticeable.
Charley

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ducbsa Bruce Metcalf
Berryville, VA, USA   USA
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This would work with oversize hose to fit over the ferrule on the fuel line tubing.

In reply to # 1922249 by sampattr250 short piece of hose 2 small hose clamps and a bolt

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ducbsa Bruce Metcalf
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None of the black rubber hose I had was suitable for slipping over the ferrule, so I used some clear tubing I had, long enough to reach above the level in the tank.

I got the pump off and I think I see why it stopped working. The stamped projections on the operating rod that engage the lever have bent off. The photo isn't well focused. I have a new pump on the way and intend to order a rebuild kit to have on hand for the future. Not much help at roadside, but I'll get back on the road sooner than searching for in-stock pumps.

One bonus from this is that I figured out what the shortened 1/4" drive 1/2" socket in my toolbox was for. I made it a few years ago for removing the rear nut on the pump flange, then forgot why I modified the socket.


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In reply to # 1922469 by ducbsa ... Not much help at roadside, but I'll get back on the road sooner than searching for in-stock pumps....

For on-the-road fuel pump failures I carry an inexpensive electric pump that can be quickly plumbed into the line from the tank over to the carbs. Wired to connect to the white wire side of the coil so it is controled by the ignition switch.

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Z320 Marco Z.
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The change the pump easily I put a fuel tap in the hose in front of the fuel pump.
And to get the rear nut off easily I fitted a special long 1/2“ hex bar with thread inside.







Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2022-09-26 12:59 AM by Z320.

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ducbsa Bruce Metcalf
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Nice, but think of the lost concours points!

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poolboy Silver Member Ken D
Sandy Hook, MS, USA   USA
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If you do not want to install a cut-off valve then at least keep a couple of "hose pinchers" in the boot...



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Z320 Marco Z.
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In reply to # 1923059 by ducbsa Nice, but think of the lost concours points!

Well stated, guy with the nameless fuel pump with cross-head screws winking smiley

Do I understand you correctly (on your photo there in nothing to see):
on your repro pump the two clips moved out, which are holding the pump's shaft in the pump housing?


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ducbsa Bruce Metcalf
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In reply to # 1923143 by Z320
In reply to # 1923059 by ducbsa Nice, but think of the lost concours points!

Well stated, guy with the nameless fuel pump with cross-head screws winking smiley I knew I should have blurred those screws!

Do I understand you correctly (on your photo there in nothing to see):
on your repro pump the two clips moved out, which are holding the pump's shaft in the pump housing?

This is what the diaphragm shaft should look like and on mine the ears are bent away and no longer were hooked on the operating lever.


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