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navydiver Rob Cornick
san diego, CA, USA   USA
1975 Triumph TR7 "The Pumpkin"
1977 Triumph TR7
1978 Triumph TR8
1980 Triumph TR7 "The Plum"    & more
Anybody else tempted by this beauty? nicest tan plaid seats I've ever seen outside a new car.https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1980-triumph-tr7-9/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-06-12



1975 TR7 FHC Ca Spec ACL 4spd
1976 TR7 FHC Ca Spec 4 spd (Temp add)
1977 TR7 FHC ACW 5Spd
1978 TR8 DHC ACT FI development car 5 Spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI Spider 5spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI Spider 5Spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI 5spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI 5 spd
1981 TR7 DHC FI 5 spd



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-06-12 01:27 PM by navydiver.

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Mr. Nuts Peter N
Tucumcari, NM, USA   USA
"nicest tan plaid seats I've ever seen outside a new car"

Those are reproduction seat upholstery and door panels. The seat upholstery looks poorly installed to me over old foam.

Here's the evidence:

https://s13252.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/15277348540ee6a44IMG_4004.jpg

https://s13252.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/1527734766bd57250ee6a44IMG_4001.jpg

Factory did not make the panels like this.

Nice car, but why try to gloss over an obvious replacement interior. Hope the new owner is happy with it.

Darth V8R Avatar
Darth V8R Vance Navarrette
Beaverton, OR, USA   USA
1980 Triumph TR8 "Wedgie"
In reply to # 1540194 by Mr. Nuts "nicest tan plaid seats I've ever seen outside a new car"

Those are reproduction seat upholstery and door panels. The seat upholstery looks poorly installed to me over old foam.

Nice car, but why try to gloss over an obvious replacement interior. Hope the new owner is happy with it.

Reserve not met.

Three to four thousand dollars is what most relatively clean TR7s go for. Top bid was $4k, so it was a good bid. No A/C but appeared to be well maintained.

Top dollar I have seen for a 7 was $5,200. It was a car that had been held by a museum for many years, less than 10,000 miles and totally untouched. Of course the new owner was going to need to replace all the hoses on the car, and probably a few other things needed to be replaced, but it was the very best I have seen, bar none.

So I think $4k was fair - assuming the pictures were not hiding anything like rust holes, and I don't think they were.

Lots of 7s coming out for sale now that the nice driving weather is here. I will be picking one up at the end of the summer, so I am watching the market.

Vance



1980 Platinum Metallic TR8, navy blue interior
Bare metal respray, Crower cam, raised compression
ported heads, modified Zenith carbs, 0.060" overbore

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Ron Avery Ron A
Oxnard, CA, USA   USA
I have the new interior in the same color in my TR 8. I think this car has the original interior, but the foam has collapsed and deteriorated. Nice TR 7.



Ron
1980 TR 8
1965 E-Type Jaguar
2016 Aston Martin Vantage GT
Oxnard, CA

navydiver Rob Cornick
san diego, CA, USA   USA
1975 Triumph TR7 "The Pumpkin"
1977 Triumph TR7
1978 Triumph TR8
1980 Triumph TR7 "The Plum"    & more
Vance I think you’re a little off the Mark now, I’ve seen a couple of 7s sell on BAT for 7k which were arguably not as nice as this one or with the same provenance. I’d expect this car to be a 7k car any day of the week and similar condition spiders etc going as high as 9k. As you say more are coming out of long storage and prices are showing renewed interest. Glad I got my 9 when I did!



1975 TR7 FHC Ca Spec ACL 4spd
1976 TR7 FHC Ca Spec 4 spd (Temp add)
1977 TR7 FHC ACW 5Spd
1978 TR8 DHC ACT FI development car 5 Spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI Spider 5spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI Spider 5Spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI 5spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI 5 spd
1981 TR7 DHC FI 5 spd

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Darth V8R Vance Navarrette
Beaverton, OR, USA   USA
1980 Triumph TR8 "Wedgie"
In reply to # 1540314 by navydiver Vance I think you’re a little off the Mark now, I’ve seen a couple of 7s sell on BAT for 7k which were arguably not as nice as this one or with the same provenance. I’d expect this car to be a 7k car any day of the week and similar condition spiders etc going as high as 9k. As you say more are coming out of long storage and prices are showing renewed interest. Glad I got my 9 when I did!

Rob:

I am basing my pricing on eBay cars that have sold in the last 90 days. Lots of cars ask for more, but do not sell, so I only look at cars actually sold, and then I look at the bidding to see if there is evidence of shill bidding.

BAT is arguably a thin slice of the market, seeing that they will not allow you to post your car for sale unless it is unusually well documented and in well above average condition. Still if cars go for $7k on BAT then I will need to add that into the equation for my upcoming purchase.

Vance



1980 Platinum Metallic TR8, navy blue interior
Bare metal respray, Crower cam, raised compression
ported heads, modified Zenith carbs, 0.060" overbore

navydiver Rob Cornick
san diego, CA, USA   USA
1975 Triumph TR7 "The Pumpkin"
1977 Triumph TR7
1978 Triumph TR8
1980 Triumph TR7 "The Plum"    & more
Vance I'd agree with your analysis of eBay cars but to my mind if you have a nice car you don't sell it on Craigslist or Ebay so that gives an artificial target unless you're budgeting on buying from that market to do a lot of work yourself. Most of my fleet have been craigslist buys and seldom come in for more than 500 bucks and are usually rust free and don't take a whole lot to get running but need probably another 1k spending on them to get them road worthy and another 500 on top of that to make them presentable unless they also need painting where you can easily add another 3k to the price. Therefore a nicely presented BAT car becomes attractive as someone else has done the work and spent the money and as you point out it is usually fairly well documented and you aren't buying a title nightmare. Heres the link to the recent TR7 sales https://bringatrailer.com/search/triumph+tr7/ You might need to up your budget unless your planning on doing the work yourself.



1975 TR7 FHC Ca Spec ACL 4spd
1976 TR7 FHC Ca Spec 4 spd (Temp add)
1977 TR7 FHC ACW 5Spd
1978 TR8 DHC ACT FI development car 5 Spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI Spider 5spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI Spider 5Spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI 5spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI 5 spd
1981 TR7 DHC FI 5 spd

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TR8todd Todd Kishbach
Mass, USA   USA
1977 Triumph TR7 "Rally Fraud"
1978 Triumph TR8
1979 Triumph TR7
1980 Triumph TR8    & more
$4k is the absolute most I'd pay for a nice TR7 convertible. Might go a little more for an 81 in a rare color like Cavalry Blue or Aran Beige. There is a really really nice Carmine vert near me and the guy is asking $2500, yet still no action. I don't count cars sold by fluff and buff dealers. For some reason, those guys always seem to get twice what a car is worth. Don't know if its good salesmanship, or stupid buyers that are willing to pay thru the nose thinking that since the car costs more, it must be better.

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Darth V8R Vance Navarrette
Beaverton, OR, USA   USA
1980 Triumph TR8 "Wedgie"
In reply to # 1540402 by TR8todd $4k is the absolute most I'd pay for a nice TR7 convertible. Might go a little more for an 81 in a rare color like Cavalry Blue or Aran Beige. There is a really really nice Carmine vert near me and the guy is asking $2500, yet still no action. I don't count cars sold by fluff and buff dealers. For some reason, those guys always seem to get twice what a car is worth. Don't know if its good salesmanship, or stupid buyers that are willing to pay thru the nose thinking that since the car costs more, it must be better.

I would point out that dealers generally offer financing, and some sort of limited warranty - 90 days or something like that. In addition, they are generally scrupulous about detailing the car so that it looks its best. Those services are worth some money. Granted, they are not services that I am inclined to pay for, but many people are.

If you buy from an individual (or eBay for that matter) you are on your own.

In addition, a dealer typically needs to make $2,000 more for a car than they have into it, or they will go out of business. In the case of BAT, there is a buyer's premium that somebody needs to pay.

What I am trying to say is that there are reasons that dealers get more and people are willing to buy from them despite the increased cost. Whether or not you are inclined to go that route is, of course, up to you.

Vance



1980 Platinum Metallic TR8, navy blue interior
Bare metal respray, Crower cam, raised compression
ported heads, modified Zenith carbs, 0.060" overbore

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Pat.L Patrick Ledford
New Wilmington, PA, USA   USA
Vance:

You said it is in the future before you would be looking for a TR7, but did you see the TR7 Sprint project on the TWOA web site under cars for sale? Arizona car with parts.

In reply to # 1540370 by Darth V8R I am basing my pricing on eBay cars that have sold in the last 90 days. Lots of cars ask for more, but do not sell, so I only look at cars actually sold, and then I look at the bidding to see if there is evidence of shill bidding.

BAT is arguably a thin slice of the market, seeing that they will not allow you to post your car for sale unless it is unusually well documented and in well above average condition. Still if cars go for $7k on BAT then I will need to add that into the equation for my upcoming purchase.

Vance



Patrick
1980 TR8 DHC TPVDV8AT209637
1957 TR-3 Under restoration TS20462LO
Western Pennsylvania Triumph Association
North Coast Triumph Association
TWOA

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Darth V8R Vance Navarrette
Beaverton, OR, USA   USA
1980 Triumph TR8 "Wedgie"
In reply to # 1540422 by Pat.L Vance:

You said it is in the future before you would be looking for a TR7, but did you see the TR7 Sprint project on the TWOA web site under cars for sale? Arizona car with parts.

Pat:

I did indeed see it. When I last looked he wanted $8k for it, which seems like too much for a wedge in pieces, be it a Sprint or not.

I have a habit of buying a car for $3,000, putting $10,000 into it, and ending up with a car that is still worth $3,000. <sigh> eye rolling smiley

Vance



1980 Platinum Metallic TR8, navy blue interior
Bare metal respray, Crower cam, raised compression
ported heads, modified Zenith carbs, 0.060" overbore

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sliproc Kevin Quistberg E
Long Beach, CA, USA   USA
Vance,

That's too much to pay for a Sprint that's in one piece and running nicely. As you guys know a car is worth whatever you can get for it. While some of these specialist car dealers may be getting some 7k plus prices it doesn't mean you can't find a really nice TR7 in the 4k price range. Although I'd like to believe TR7s are increasing in value I'm still skeptical. It took $9300 for me to drive my TR7 out of the dealership, I figure somewhere in the '80s it bottomed out at around $2500 to $3000, that's probably what I could get for it today.

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Darth V8R Vance Navarrette
Beaverton, OR, USA   USA
1980 Triumph TR8 "Wedgie"
In reply to # 1540589 by sliproc Vance,

That's too much to pay for a Sprint that's in one piece and running nicely. As you guys know a car is worth whatever you can get for it. While some of these specialist car dealers may be getting some 7k plus prices it doesn't mean you can't find a really nice TR7 in the 4k price range. Although I'd like to believe TR7s are increasing in value I'm still skeptical. It took $9300 for me to drive my TR7 out of the dealership, I figure somewhere in the '80s it bottomed out at around $2500 to $3000, that's probably what I could get for it today.

With so many of the TR7s scrapped out (IIRC even the TR8 has had about 50% of total production scrapped by now) I hope you are correct.

My buddies down at my local friendly LBC car shop crush TR7s. They will remove the 5 speed transmission and axle, and crush the rest of the car. If they have one that they are parting out, it is only because they have had other things to do and have not gotten to crushing it yet. They claim they cannot give them away. The only reason they end up with them is an owner wants the car out of his garage, so they will pick it up for free but only if something accompanies the wedge that is worth some money, like an MGB <shudder>.

This is the part of the market I love to fool around in; Ignored by almost everyone, dirt cheap, and still fund to own, repair, modify and drive.

It does make it challenging to find much aftermarket support, like cams, big brakes, etc. But there is always some guy supporting them with parts from the shop in back of their house. So if you are determined you can get her done.

As far as appreciation goes, I have never, ever made money on a car. My neighbor claims he does it all the time (he's a Mopar guy). Buys a vintage slant six Dodge Dart from a blind schoolteacher who only drove it on Sundays, pays $1,000. Drops a 318ci Chrysler V8 in it, sells it for $6k. He doesn't make much, maybe $1,000 on the whole deal but he has a positive cash flow. Me, well, there is a giant sucking sound originating from my wallet anytime I bring a car home.

Vance



1980 Platinum Metallic TR8, navy blue interior
Bare metal respray, Crower cam, raised compression
ported heads, modified Zenith carbs, 0.060" overbore

POW Peter Wirth
HEBRON, NH - New Hampshire, USA   USA
In reply to # 1540617 by Darth V8R
As far as appreciation goes, I have never, ever made money on a car. My neighbor claims he does it all the time (he's a Mopar guy). Buys a vintage slant six Dodge Dart from a blind schoolteacher who only drove it on Sundays, pays $1,000. Drops a 318ci Chrysler V8 in it, sells it for $6k. He doesn't make much, maybe $1,000 on the whole deal but he has a positive cash flow. Me, well, there is a giant sucking sound originating from my wallet anytime I bring a car home.

Vance

This post of yours and others from you too are extremely relate-able. Probably like yourself I'm hesitant to ad up the receipts that it took to make my 8 run well. i'm sure it's Ferrari money. - Pete

navydiver Rob Cornick
san diego, CA, USA   USA
1975 Triumph TR7 "The Pumpkin"
1977 Triumph TR7
1978 Triumph TR8
1980 Triumph TR7 "The Plum"    & more
Haha I guess you’ve never owned a Ferrari, specially a 1980’s one!



1975 TR7 FHC Ca Spec ACL 4spd
1976 TR7 FHC Ca Spec 4 spd (Temp add)
1977 TR7 FHC ACW 5Spd
1978 TR8 DHC ACT FI development car 5 Spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI Spider 5spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI Spider 5Spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI 5spd
1980 TR7 DHC FI 5 spd
1981 TR7 DHC FI 5 spd

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