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Terry Muir Avatar
Terry Muir Silver Member Terry A. Muir
Vernon, BC, Canada   CAN
I have located a Smooth Line hard top for my tr8 and am not willing to pay $140.for front and rear hold down clamps has any one got a photo of them so i could make a set for front and back.
thank you
terry muir
TERRYMUIR00@GMAIL.COM

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darrellwalker Darrell Walker
Vancouver, WA, USA   USA
1966 Triumph TR4A "Christy"
1981 Triumph TR8 "Kate"
The front, at least according to the current instructions on their site, are held down by bolts that you put under the stock latch plate. I picked up an extra set of stock latches, and I am hoping to adapt them to work. The instructions are missing the figure showing the rear latch. I did get some pictures from another member about how he secures the rear.



Darrell Walker
66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L
81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206
Vancouver, WA, USA


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Carb-Dave Dave Mundt
Cedar Falls, IA, USA   USA
Terry - I’m in the same boat as you. I have the same top but without the hardware. Where were you able to find hardware? As stated in previous posts, I have had no luck from any of my inquiries to smooth line. Maybe I’m not trying hard enough?

Darrell - thanks for the pics, this gives me a clue at least. Does not appear to be too hard to duplicate, just need some more design details for the rear latches.

Carb-Dave (now EFI-and-maybe-hard-top-Dave)

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darrellwalker Darrell Walker
Vancouver, WA, USA   USA
1966 Triumph TR4A "Christy"
1981 Triumph TR8 "Kate"
In reply to # 1599534 by Carb-Dave Terry - I’m in the same boat as you. I have the same top but without the hardware. Where were you able to find hardware? As stated in previous posts, I have had no luck from any of my inquiries to smooth line. Maybe I’m not trying hard enough?

Darrell - thanks for the pics, this gives me a clue at least. Does not appear to be too hard to duplicate, just need some more design details for the rear latches.

Carb-Dave (now EFI-and-maybe-hard-top-Dave)

I've never had them answer an email, you can to call.

Here is some information on the rear latch system that is shown in the pictures (not the original setup):


The standard soft-top latches can be made to pass through the holes on the front edge of the hardtop and work just fine to clamp it down. I have never bothered to screw them in place so they look loose, but tighten down nicely when latched.

The bigger problem is on the rear of the top. There are two flat ears on the inside of the top that are supposed to be used to clamp it down, but they are in a spot that interferes with the soft top. So you can't use them. But if you try to drive without the rear held down the wind will lift the entire top up off the back of the car- pretty unnerving. I had to add latches further out to the corners of the car and put new catches on the inside of the hardtop.

The latches I used are from a junkyard - they are the latches that hold the engine cover in place on the interior of Ford Econoline vans. I found a location where they could screw into a vertical support behind the carpet. The catches are typical cabinet drawer pulls with a profile that the latch could grab. I had to drill through the hardtop to install the catches, but you hardly notice the screws when it is all installed.


I've attached a picture of the screws holding the handle on.

Another thought for the rear hold down might be something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Rubber-Luggage-Container-Hold-Downs-Street/dp/B00EKUK9KW/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=hold+down+latch&qid=1551485542&s=gateway&sr=8-10

-Darrell



Darrell Walker
66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L
81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206
Vancouver, WA, USA


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TR8todd Todd Kishbach
Mass, USA   USA
1977 Triumph TR7 "Rally Fraud"
1978 Triumph TR8
1979 Triumph TR7
1980 Triumph TR8    & more
Been years since I had a hard top, but I seem to remember mine bolting to the sides. There was a piece that bolted where the soft folding top bolts behind the seats. It had a hook, or a bar, or a round metal loop of some sort. There was a piece that bolted to the top in the same area. There was a turnbuckle with eyelets on both ends that hooked into the top and the side mounts. You turned the turn buckle until the whole top snugged down, then you locked it in place with a lock nut. Turnbuckle looked similar to the fancy ones you see to tension an alternator on street rods.

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Pat.L Silver Member Patrick Ledford
New Wilmington, PA, USA   USA
In reply to # 1599568 by TR8todd Been years since I had a hard top, but I seem to remember mine bolting to the sides. There was a piece that bolted where the soft folding top bolts behind the seats. It had a hook, or a bar, or a round metal loop of some sort. There was a piece that bolted to the top in the same area. There was a turnbuckle with eyelets on both ends that hooked into the top and the side mounts. You turned the turn buckle until the whole top snugged down, then you locked it in place with a lock nut. Turnbuckle looked similar to the fancy ones you see to tension an alternator on street rods.

you probably has a type of hard top similar to my Snug Top. My top came with the "L" bracket but no fastening device so I used a Battery hold down "J" hook. The hook section is just hooked to the soft top frame. I have not done any high speed test to see how well it holds. The turn buckle system my be easier.



Patrick
1980 TR8 DHC TPVDV8AT209637
1957 TR-3 Under restoration TS20462LO
Western Pennsylvania Triumph Association
TWOA


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Terry Muir Silver Member Terry A. Muir
Vernon, BC, Canada   CAN
Thank You that looks good how is it fastened in front Patrick ? I am looking at a used one Clarston Michigan thier are a lot of scamers out thier is any body living near thier/ THAT COULD CHEEK IT OUT?
Thank all for helping on THRIUMPH FORM

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Pat.L Silver Member Patrick Ledford
New Wilmington, PA, USA   USA
In reply to # 1599967 by Terry Muir Thank You that looks good how is it fastened in front Patrick ? I am looking at a used one Clarston Michigan thier are a lot of scamers out thier is any body living near thier/ THAT COULD CHEEK IT OUT?
Thank all for helping on THRIUMPH FORM

Mine is just like a Drop Head. It has the same clamps and goes in the hole the Drop Head uses.



Patrick
1980 TR8 DHC TPVDV8AT209637
1957 TR-3 Under restoration TS20462LO
Western Pennsylvania Triumph Association
TWOA

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Carb-Dave Dave Mundt
Cedar Falls, IA, USA   USA
Some picks of my smooth line top....
- Are these rear latch/hook mount protrusions ?? I'm assuming this was used for J-hooks of some type ?
- Front cam latches same as convertible top? They are sitting in each of the holes loose! Not sure if that's the way it should be??
- Window seals should be replaced.
- overall in good shape, just need to retro fit some hold down straps and figure our the latches in the front.

Carb-Dave (now EFI-Dave)


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Terry Muir Silver Member Terry A. Muir
Vernon, BC, Canada   CAN
I must say I did not realize the value of belonging to the Triumph Experience is, thank you for all your help with the smooth line top

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