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gcelenta George Celentano
Orlando, FL, USA   USA
Hello,

I purchased a Springalex Steering Wheel and Boss for my 1980 Spit and am very happy with the look and quality. However, I don't see any information on how to get the horn button to work. There's nothing on their website and the contact doesn't answer my emails.

Attached is a pic of the back of the horn button and a slip ring for an older spitfire. I bought the slip ring thinking I could figure out. There are a few posts here referring to the slip ring but nothing specif on how to configure for a new steering wheel center horn. I know I could get power by splicing into the side lever horn button. But where I go from there? I am at a loss.

Any and all ideas are appreciated.


George



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alanroseman Alan Roseman
Rehoboth, MA, USA   USA
1978 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "The Little Car.."
This was my solution to the Spitfires less than stellar horn reliability.

A heavy duty starter switch, now a horn button, which occupies the space left after removal of the other useless cockpit item, the "dimmer" switch.

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Doug in Vegas Douglas D
Las Vegas, NV, USA   USA
Need to see the inside of the wheel. The basic idea is that brass ring mounts either to the inside of the wheel or to the base of the column. There should be an insulated spring loaded wiper that presses to the ring.

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walla walla, WA, USA   USA
1969 Triumph Spitfire "Walla Walla"
1969 Triumph Spitfire "Portland"
1972 Triumph Spitfire MkIV "Spokane"
1975 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "Dayton"    & more
It helps to know what year your car is as there were a couple of changes in how that system operates. I think you referred to a stalk switch but not sure you are talking about yours.
Dan



Dan Aycock
Walla Walla, Wa.
Yellowhawk Valley Spitfires
69, 69, 72, 75, 78, 79 Spitfires

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rcharris Gold Member Rod Harris
Fort Collins, CO, USA   USA
Folks

OP says it’s a 1980 Spit. If it’s like my ‘79 then the horn is a button built into the turn signal stalk. Can it be retrofitted with a horn button in the wheel? Replace the steering column with one from an older model? When did the horn move to the stalk?

Rc

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Doug in Vegas Douglas D
Las Vegas, NV, USA   USA
In reply to # 1527105 by rcharris Can it be retrofitted with a horn button in the wheel?

Yes. I would use a motor brush and spring in a plastic housing. Luckily the horn only has to go to ground so you don't need two wipers like on a former project I did.

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tapkaJohnD John Davies
Lancaster, Lancashire, UK   GBR
Have you used a multimeter to see wher the volts are?

The horn works, by grounding through the steering column, so check that is earthed, especially if you have a rubber bushed U/joint in it.

I dont see in the parts in your photo, Part Number 142534 HORN TOP SPRING CONNECTOR.
It's an essential part of the link!

JOhn

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gcelenta George Celentano
Orlando, FL, USA   USA
In reply to # 1527111 by Doug in Vegas
In reply to # 1527105 by rcharris Can it be retrofitted with a horn button in the wheel?

Yes. I would use a motor brush and spring in a plastic housing. Luckily the horn only has to go to ground so you don't need two wipers like on a former project I did.

Doug,

Do you have a pic or a link to one I can see?

Thanks,

George

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Doug in Vegas Douglas D
Las Vegas, NV, USA   USA
Use the early years as a guide.




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Doug in Vegas Douglas D
Las Vegas, NV, USA   USA
Good discussion here:

https://www.triumphexp.com/phorum/read.php?8,1438654

The OP needs to fix their image links but further along are loads of pictures.

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walla walla, WA, USA   USA
1969 Triumph Spitfire "Walla Walla"
1969 Triumph Spitfire "Portland"
1972 Triumph Spitfire MkIV "Spokane"
1975 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "Dayton"    & more
Don't forget that if you mimic the older style wheel and push button that you also have to do the ground wire around the steering shaft u-joint and add the ground wire on top of the steering rack , just as those older ones had.
Dan



Dan Aycock
Walla Walla, Wa.
Yellowhawk Valley Spitfires
69, 69, 72, 75, 78, 79 Spitfires

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HRH Robert Kimball
Tarpon Springs, FL, USA   USA
Hello! .. Yes, I'm working on the same horn thing here, just this one is a Moto-Lita, but it looks the same as your Springalex. .. Anyway I can aim to bring what I have so far to the All British Car Show next month (the show that was at Mead Gardens last year, they are moving it further north this year) for you to see if the same sort of thing will work for you. ..

Best regards
Robert

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gcelenta George Celentano
Orlando, FL, USA   USA
In reply to # 1601875 by HRH Hello! .. Yes, I'm working on the same horn thing here, just this one is a Moto-Lita, but it looks the same as your Springalex. .. Anyway I can aim to bring what I have so far to the All British Car Show next month (the show that was at Mead Gardens last year, they are moving it further north this year) for you to see if the same sort of thing will work for you. ..

Best regards
Robert

I'll be there too. Look forward to meeting you Robert.

Regards,

George

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