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What? No Gears?
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  This topic is about my 1978 Triumph Spitfire 1500
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luckygalnj Silver Member Martha S
Cherry Hill, NJ, USA   USA
So... Car has been garaged for 6-8 weeks. We get a deluge of acorns and its like hailstones if they hit your car, let alone your head!

When I parked it, it was fine.
It was cold yesterday morning, in the 40's. Car started hard and ran rough but it was running and would have warmed up and settled down. Tried to back it out of the garage to avoid exhaust in the garage and....no gears. Zilch. Nada. Cannot move shifter into any gear.

There are no leaks anywhere and the fluid reservoir is full. Travel on the clutch pedal feels normal.

Any ideas? Where to look next?

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bleese Barry Leese
Brookeville, Maryland, USA   USA
Check the fluid in your clutch slave cylinder. Mine used to drop fluid when the weather changed. Add some fluid and pump the clutch. It should lead its self.. at least mine did.

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lef2wander Gold Member James Thomas
hatfield, ma, USA   USA
Can you get it gear with the engine off. And yes pump the pedal, check for fluid drop in res. You may have pump alot.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-11-19 11:34 AM by lef2wander.

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Roy roy o
Marietta, GA, USA   USA
sounds like the clutch disc is rusted to the flywheel . Happens a lot when not driven . Put car in gear , then with clutch depressed , start car & it will break free . Of course , make sure there is room if the car moves !

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luckygalnj Silver Member Martha S
Cherry Hill, NJ, USA   USA
I can't put it in gear. With the clutch pedal depressed all the way - the shifter will not move into any gear.

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luckygalnj Silver Member Martha S
Cherry Hill, NJ, USA   USA
Wait a sec....yes I can get the shifter to move when the engine is off....so that leads to the stuck clutch-flywheel scenario suggested below.

I will roll it out of the garage before I try the "start the engine with it in gear method"

And yes I have checked the reservoir and it is full up.

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luckygalnj Silver Member Martha S
Cherry Hill, NJ, USA   USA
OK, still no go with the "break free" method

Was able to move the shifter with the engine off
Put it in First and hit the starter
Then it was stuck in First. - bad news because we had rolled it out of the garage and now had no way to get it back in...easily
took TWO of us to push it back in - there is an incline of course :-(

Got it unstuck from First somehow??? BUT with the engine on I cannot put it in gear at all.

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Born Loser Silver Member Matthew Taylor
Land O Lake, Florida, USA   USA
Any grinding, or the lever just physically won't go? How about reverse? Same?



Matthew
1960 Triumph TR3a
1970 Triumph Spitfire MK 3
2012 Mini Cooper SS Convertible



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-11-19 02:41 PM by Born Loser.

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Doug in Vegas Douglas D
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA   USA
The Spitfire is the only car I've seen that does this.

Generally you can drive it in gear with the clutch to the floor until it lets go.

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luckygalnj Silver Member Martha S
Cherry Hill, NJ, USA   USA
just won't go
reverse = same

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Born Loser Silver Member Matthew Taylor
Land O Lake, Florida, USA   USA
Hmmm, so you had it running in first gear - did the clutch do anything?



Matthew
1960 Triumph TR3a
1970 Triumph Spitfire MK 3
2012 Mini Cooper SS Convertible

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luckygalnj Silver Member Martha S
Cherry Hill, NJ, USA   USA
1) Put it in First gear.
2) foot off clutch
3) started engine
4) lurched forward for 1/2 second then stalled

Roy Avatar
Roy roy o
Marietta, GA, USA   USA
Foot on the clutch , in gear , then start(or lurch forward)

Lizzard d id
san jose, ca, USA   USA
In reply to # 1498813 by luckygalnj Travel on the clutch pedal feels normal.
Stuck clutch syndrome .
I've had success by getting the rear wheels off the ground , starting up the motor , revving up the motor , stepping on the clutch and then jabbing at the brake pedal . The brakes will stress the clutch as they try to slow the motor . Rev / jab , rev / jab , rev / jab , over and over till the clutch breaks free .

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Doug in Vegas Douglas D
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA   USA
In reply to # 1498873 by Lizzard
In reply to # 1498813 by luckygalnj Travel on the clutch pedal feels normal.
Stuck clutch syndrome .
I've had success by getting the rear wheels off the ground , starting up the motor , revving up the motor , stepping on the clutch and then jabbing at the brake pedal . The brakes will stress the clutch as they try to slow the motor . Rev / jab , rev / jab , rev / jab , over and over till the clutch breaks free .

That beats gear jamming into first after a push.

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