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alanroseman Silver Member Alan Roseman
Rehoboth, MA, USA   USA
1978 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "The Little Car.."
Hi Guys,

I have a bad case of "While I'm at it". I pulled the transmission, replaced it with the correct single rail.. installed hush mat, redoing the seat upholstery, you know, while I'm at it.

(Photos of the transmission install will soon follow...)

Question is this. I am going to place 3 gauges where the radio was, they're nice, from auto meter. Black face with white pointers.. look pretty cool.
How can I add that new water temp gauge and keep the old one?

I see an "inline" radiator hose adapter which would allow the sending unit to be installed, but where the heck can I get that in? Is there another method to add the new sending unit and keep the old one? Is there a way to add the sending unit to the hose which comes from the thermostat fitting?

Your thoughts?



Cheers, Alan

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clshore Carter Shore
Beverly Hills, Florida, USA   USA
Why would you do that?
It introduces another point of critical failure to your car.
But if you do, I'd suggest placing the 'tap' in one of the heater hoses,
they get engine coolant flow no matter what the thermostat is doing.
Keep spare hose/clamps/tools to service/bypass the installation if
needed while on the road, easier to deal with than the big main hoses.

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alanroseman Silver Member Alan Roseman
Rehoboth, MA, USA   USA
1978 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "The Little Car.."
In reply to # 1476900 by clshore Why would you do that?
Keep spare hose/clamps/tools to service/bypass the installation if
needed while on the road, easier to deal with than the big main hoses.

Carter, Well, I'd like to keep the original gauge in place, but they are subject to some variation as we have proved over time. The needle can be at different places on different vehicles etc. based on the sending unit... which is sketchy.

I think knowing the actual water temperature is a decent quid pro quo for the risk of a failed clamp.

I think I found a 5/8 diameter inline device... shown in the pic here. it is a 5/8 hose I believe.



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skyking1231 Silver Member Frank Strobel
Mt. Sinai, NY, USA   USA
1975 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "Lil' Rose"
you can getthe adapter for the mechanical probe...and install it where the oem sender goes. Then put the oem sender in the "inline" adapter on top rad hose....

I would remove oem temp guage...and just put in a clock (smiths...or something that looks original with black face white hands)

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erictrumpet Eric T
Good, ol', USA   USA
I have also been planning to put in three auxiliary gauges to replace my Spitfire's radio, I really like the look of that 3-gauge cluster. That's the first set of non-Smiths gauges which look to me similar enough to vintage Smiths gauges.

And I prefer how this water temp gauge gives more information than the stock Smiths gauge. I'd be inclined to use that one, and replace the stock gauge in the dash with a clock as suggested above.

Can anyone think of a reason why using the pictured "Auto-gage" brand water temp gauge in place of the stock gauge would be a bad idea? I guess it would be important to know what actual temperature corresponds to the 3rd mark on the stock gauge. In other words, when the stock temp gauge is pointing where it should be under normal operating conditions (showing approximately 3/4 reading), what actual temp is that?

Eric.

clshore Carter Shore
Beverly Hills, Florida, USA   USA
That ought to do the trick.

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alanroseman Silver Member Alan Roseman
Rehoboth, MA, USA   USA
1978 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "The Little Car.."
Eric,

I believe it's 180 degrees F. Auto gauge / Auto Meter also make a clock in its "old tyme" line. (see image)

Replacing the stock water temp with the clock might be the way to go.



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TheBomb Chris Gill
Toronto, Ontario, Canada   CAN
1975 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "The Bomb"
Question:

I Just worked my ass off to make kick panels for the speakers, reupholstered the H-brace and installed a radio with hidden antenna. I'm really happy with the result.

Why are you guys ditching your radios for gauges?

Personally I'd replace the stock water temp gauge with the smiths oil pressure/water temp gauge.

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alanroseman Silver Member Alan Roseman
Rehoboth, MA, USA   USA
1978 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "The Little Car.."
In reply to # 1476931 by TheBomb Question:
Why are you guys ditching your radios for gauges?

Personally I'd replace the stock water temp gauge with the smiths oil pressure/water temp gauge.

Chris,

i can hear music anyplace I'd like. I can only hear my Spit when I'm in my Spit....



Cheers, Alan

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skyking1231 Silver Member Frank Strobel
Mt. Sinai, NY, USA   USA
1975 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "Lil' Rose"
I love my radio.... and for those who say they like the sound of their engine....that i understand too....but when parked at the beach...it nice to listen to some tunes... and yes you can get a bluetooth speaker...but car radio is great. cool smiley

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alanroseman Silver Member Alan Roseman
Rehoboth, MA, USA   USA
1978 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "The Little Car.."
In reply to # 1476917 by skyking1231 you can getthe adapter for the mechanical probe...and install it where the oem sender goes. Then put the oem sender in the "inline" adapter on top rad hose....

I would remove oem temp guage...and just put in a clock (smiths...or something that looks original with black face white hands)

Frank, That's a great idea. In fact, I bought the clock like 45 seconds ago.

I wonder what I'll need for an adapter to place the mechanical sender where the current one is... anyone know?



Cheers, Alan

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TheBomb Chris Gill
Toronto, Ontario, Canada   CAN
1975 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "The Bomb"
In reply to # 1476937 by skyking1231 I love my radio.... and for those who say they like the sound of their engine....that i understand too....but when parked at the beach...it nice to listen to some tunes... and yes you can get a bluetooth speaker...but car radio is great. cool smiley

This.

Plus on a long 2 hour road trip, the drone of my "beautiful engine" on the highway gets to be monotonous after a while. A bit of CCR or Queen is nice to jam out to while I cover some miles.

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skyking1231 Silver Member Frank Strobel
Mt. Sinai, NY, USA   USA
1975 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "Lil' Rose"
Look on rimmers website. They have the adapter listed. As they sell the dual oil/water temp gauage, with the same mechanical temp probe thingy. Maybe you can find one here in the states...i am not sure.

Alan ....you are out of control. You are bringine new meaning to the "while i am in there" line.

Did you at least get the gearbox in? Where are you in your project?

In reply to # 1476938 by alanroseman
In reply to # 1476917 by skyking1231 you can getthe adapter for the mechanical probe...and install it where the oem sender goes. Then put the oem sender in the "inline" adapter on top rad hose....

I would remove oem temp guage...and just put in a clock (smiths...or something that looks original with black face white hands)

Frank, That's a great idea. In fact, I bought the clock like 45 seconds ago.

I wonder what I'll need for an adapter to place the mechanical sender where the current one is... anyone know?

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skyking1231 Silver Member Frank Strobel
Mt. Sinai, NY, USA   USA
1975 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "Lil' Rose"
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alanroseman Silver Member Alan Roseman
Rehoboth, MA, USA   USA
1978 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "The Little Car.."
In reply to # 1476944 by skyking1231 Look on rimmers website. They have the adapter listed. As they sell the dual oil/water temp gauage, with the same mechanical temp probe thingy. Maybe you can find one here in the states...i am not sure.

Alan ....you are out of control. You are bringine new meaning to the "while i am in there" line.

Did you at least get the gearbox in? Where are you in your project?

In reply to # 1476938 by alanroseman
In reply to # 1476917 by skyking1231

Frank,

The transmission is in... I was ready to start reinstalling but the speedo cable was broken... there was no end on the transmission side... So, I could not reinstall the tunnel cover, so I started redoing the seats.

Also doing the entire interior with hushmat... not to mention fixing a hole which we discovered on the drivers floor by cutting out the front floor pan and replacing it.

Did I mention the guys lent me a 1966 MGB to tool around in while I finish my Spit?

Speedo cable should be waiting for me when I get home..



Cheers, Alan

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