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Lancero Lance Winger
Springfield, OR, USA   USA
Thanks again Joe, UPS did a job on that tranny. Sounds like Macy is a great outfit. Looked at their site, nice! I saw in your bio that you broke a crank also. I picked up a used one for $80 back in 80. We seem to have same approach, make em better and drive em. Mine is better than ever, now that I've got the time and money to make it nice. I'm going to pull my apron and rebuild steering box and have radiator boiled, this fall. Did you see my old pics in my 1st forum entry a week ago under "new member" ? later Lance

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Starshark Joe Garcia
Gainesville, Georgia, USA   USA
1960 Triumph TR3A "White Knight"
I did not see your post...will check it out...yes...snapped the crank in half near the flywheel down shifting hard while on HY 280 in San Jose. I also had the car start on fire...carpet smoked a bit while zooming towards school in Palo Alto on Alma Blvd. Many, many adventures. I too just had the radiator fixed (before and after pics)...and the steering box...I also installed Macy's Hurricane fan...I bet our cars have aged exactly the same way.


Joe


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Lancero Lance Winger
Springfield, OR, USA   USA
Joe, Glad to hear you rebuilt your steering box. Mine leaked all it's oil back in the day before I knew why it steered hard. I keep it full now but leaks real good and it's easy to wiggle the arm, so the bearing is bad. So I figure at least bearings and seal will be needed. What all did you change on yours? Was it very hard to remove steering wheel? I've got non-adjustable wheel. I read where Randal rebuilt his box and was very pleased at how much easier it steered. I would enjoy easier steering. I totally rebuilt the front suspension last fall and it turned out good. Parts were really worn out but the darn car actually steered tight, just would act poorly on certain pavements or bumps. That fan looks great. I bought a TR-6 fan from TRF before I read about your experiences with Macy and saw their fan. Not sure if I should eat the $50 I paid for TRF fan, which needs to be mounted backwards to fit, and get Macy's better one. Thanks yet again, Lance

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Starshark Joe Garcia
Gainesville, Georgia, USA   USA
1960 Triumph TR3A "White Knight"
Please check your Idler arm first...I replaced my about 30 years ago...might be the cause of the steering wiggle.

Guess what!? Surprise! The steering shaft outer column is braised to the steering box body and it was very loose on mine...my leak was there...after removing EVERYTHING I tried to solder it back when on the bench...I failed...after my rebuild, I had to wrap the outer column/steering box interface with anti-oil leak tape which seems to work...the nose was back on and I said to myself "perfection is the worst enemy of good enough" The steering box rebuild was a bear...the worm gear was marginal and I left it in place since it would require major shaft welding...I did replace the pressed in steering pin... it took over 8 tons of pressure to pop it out at a local mechanic shop. After I replace both common upper and lower bearings, (using Macy's tech tips), I had to order more shims to put the front cover back on...without the extra shims, it would bind and be too tight...why? I have no clue. BTW...my steering doesn't leak but it still a bear to turn lock to lock when the car is motionless. I had to mess with the pin pressure adjustment several times to get it "OK". In hindsight, I should have set the whole mess to Macy in Ohio. But my self esteem would not be as great as it is today.


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Lancero Lance Winger
Springfield, OR, USA   USA
That doesn't sound like a fun time. Maybe I'll look for some help. I put new idler arm in last year during front end rebuild. I can wiggle the arm attached to steering box. I'll check for leak on column. Will let you know how it goes. Good to know what I'm in for, thanks one more time.

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Lancero Lance Winger
Springfield, OR, USA   USA
Joe, Well I'm deep into steering box rebuild. My column was tight so no leak problems there. I had a qualified friend/British specialist look over my parts and said I could get by with bushing and pin. He said ball bearings looked good and they really don't have much load and no heat on them. That saved me $100. So I had machine shop do the pressing and I'm putting it back together. My friend said I would likely have to remove a shim to take up for wear. Well I reassembled with all of the shims and there wasn't any end play at all. Shaft turned pretty good and I know I don't want end play anyhow but thought I'd have some and would like to know where I stand. I tried making a temp shim out of beer can doubled but still no end play. I sure would like to have ordered extra shims, like a thick one. I see now why you didn't enjoy the job much. What did you use for oil in gear box? Also I took radiator in for a cleaning and they had to rod it out. I was glad to know that my cooling will be much improved. Putting a better fan on, too. Can't wait for the pin pressure adjustment. Shop manual say to drive 1st to adjust as needed. later Lance

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Starshark Joe Garcia
Gainesville, Georgia, USA   USA
1960 Triumph TR3A "White Knight"
Good for you! So where was the leak? ...around the horn/turn signal shaft? I used 40 wt. oil gear oil in my steering box. Good steering is always a good thing! I just polished up my carbs with a polishing kit I purchased for my grinder...worked great! Now's the time to doll up the engine compartment.

Joe

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Lancero Lance Winger
Springfield, OR, USA   USA
Wow Joe those dash pots look stunning! Nice. My box was leaking around wires and at seal on steering shaft. How did you come up with proper shim pack? Or how much pre load is needed? I assume your old shims weren't enough. I wonder if they set pre load tight at factory. My preload with old shims is tight but things turn fairly easy by hand. Getting any driving in, in Georgia? I've been skiing here. later, thanks Lance

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