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6TTR3A Frank Conklin
San Diego,CA, USA   USA
Don,
I was never able to gather enough specific information on the TR3B production
figures to build a module. I have a feeling that since the 3Bs were built
by a different company, (The Forward Radiator Co., a S-T subsidiary)
their record keeping policies were different if not non-existent.

However, Since I do Know that TCF production began in May, 1962 & yours was
the 68th car of that series, May 1962 looks pretty good.
Frank

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6TTR3A Frank Conklin
San Diego,CA, USA   USA
Thanks George
That's the same date I came up with.
It's nice to know my module proves out most of the time.
Weight and fate?
14 stone and destined to wander the General Hitchcock Highway
in an LBC or maybe a MBC (Jag)

Herk Nate Steiner
Boise, ID, USA   USA
My father's TR3A, TS68189LO has always been registered as a 1961. My theory is that came about because the original owner was in the military and picked the car up from the factory sometime in 1960, but it did not make it to the US until 1961, or the factory held some LHD cars for direct sales and the car may have been in inventory for several months. Perhaps a combination of the two. I figure it was actually built in early 1960, do you have an actual date?

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tonytr3 Tony M
Grosse Ile, MI, USA   USA
1959 Triumph TR3 "TR"
The screwy thing about my car is that it was titled in Michigan in 1959!

tony

6TTR3A Frank Conklin
San Diego,CA, USA   USA
Nate,
Either one of your theories is plausible
My module shows TS68189 built on 09 Feb 1960.
If you ever decide to get a real build record from BMIHT,
https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive/heritage-certificates
Please let me know so I can update my "proof" records.
Frank

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60TR3-Red Roy M
Florence, SC, USA   USA
Just curious about Triumph TR3 factory output.

I noticed TS68189 build date estimate 9 Feb 1960

It was previously estimated my TS63103LO was built 1 Dec 1959

That's roughly 5086 cars made between 1 Dec and 9 Feb which is 70 days or 10 weeks. If it is assumed the factory did not work on Christmas and New Years days, then 68 days. If a work week was 5 days, then it's about 48 work days. If a work week was 6 days, it's 58 work days.

How many shifts worked per day? 1,2, or 3?

5 day work week with 48 work days, if 1 shift per day, is 48 x 8 hr = 384 work hours to make 5086 cars = 13.24 cars per hour (one car every 4.5 minutes)
6 day work week with 58 work days, if 1 shift per day, is 58 x 8 hr = 464 work hours to make 5086 cars = 10.96 cars per hour (one car every 5.47 minutes)

Both of those seem to have output too high for that non-robotized era.

If 3 shifts:
5 day work week is 5086 cars in 1152 work hours = 4.4 cars per hour (one car every 13.6 minutes)
6 day work week is 5086 cars in 1392 work hours = 3.65 cars per hour (one car every 16.4 minutes)

Those seem feasible. But how do they compare to the build date estimation module?

Roy

Geo Hahn Avatar
Mt Lemmon, AZ, USA   USA
If a chicken & a half can lay an egg & a half in an hour & a half...

Never did like that problem. I seem to recall I once figured out that ST was building about 100 cars a day around the time mine was built. But 1959 was a big year production-wise so no doubt the volume changes as you look at different times.

I do always enjoy any insight into how the factory worked - such titbits seem hard to find.

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Boot neck Dave David Orme
Wakefield, Yorkshire, UK   GBR
Hi Frank. I am in touch with a young man over in the states. He has an early 56 small mouth. His dad bought it new and gave him on his 16 birthday but alas it just stated in the garage till now. It is totally original. TS12182 he wanted to sell but me and a few others have got him to keep it. Also told him not to restore it. Just to get the car safe and up and running.hope you can give some info on the car. I also will tell him to join the club.
Ps I sold froggy (£24,000pounds) and she has gone to a Yorkshire man who has taken her to sunny south of France. I have sent you a pic of the completed engine bay hope it will help any one detailing there's.


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yellow tr3 Frank Fisher
temecula, CA, USA   USA
1958 Triumph TR3A "Mustard"
1974 MG Midget
Dave
thats a hell of a carp.
wish i could have landed one that size when i lived in UK.

i would suggest leaving the car as is.
the latest "trend" is to leave classics in original condition if you can. and that looks like you can.
however that trend is generally for high $ cars, not sure how it equates to our respectable but lower $ cars.

frank

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pcsbob Robert Wilkins
Franklin, TN, USA   USA
1957 Triumph TR3 "TR3"
1970 MG MGB "Greenie"
1973 MG MGB
looks like a great car.


I would definitely leave it original. Here is a picture of my 57. The only thing not original on mine is the carpet, wheels and tonneau cover

Bob


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6TTR3A Frank Conklin
San Diego,CA, USA   USA
Roy,
All I did was use quarterly numbers
I order to be totally accurate, one would need the beginning and ending
numbers for each workday, which I certainly don't have.
Production numbers increased significantly in the last
quarter of 1959 and the first quarter of 1960.The size of the line didn't
get any bigger so I assume another shift was added. Some build records
will state what time of day the car was built, but I've not heard of one saying
"Your car was built at 10:55PM on XXAprilXXXX" Always morning or afternoon.
Owners have been kind enough to advise me of the build dates on the
certificates they get from Heritage. That is how I verify my "guesses"
Most are dead on; some are 1-2 days off. A few have been as much off as 5 days.
One was 25 days but I know the story on that one.
Frank

6TTR3A Frank Conklin
San Diego,CA, USA   USA
Thanks, Dave
That TR3 was built on Wed. 11 July 1956
Looks like Signal red with red trim,
adjustable steering wheel and a heater.
No "L" suffix on the Comm #. I assume an oversight.

6TTR3A Frank Conklin
San Diego,CA, USA   USA
Boy, Even tho they are a PITA to keep clean, those whitewalls sure set
the car off, especially with chrome wires.
BEAUTIFUL !!!
FRank

pcsbob Robert Wilkins
Franklin, TN, USA   USA
1957 Triumph TR3 "TR3"
1970 MG MGB "Greenie"
1973 MG MGB
Even though they ar a pain to clean, they look so different than all the cars with black walls. I think they really enhance the period look

Bob

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grubscrew grub screw
The suburbs of, Winfield, Maryland, USA   USA
Yep, big whitewall fan!



Dave
1970 Spitfire Mk3
FDU 78359L
34/11 (Jasmine yellow/Black interior)

1962 Triumph TR3B
TCF 575L
Signal Red/Red interior


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