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Steptoe1950 John L
Kilsyth South, Melbourne, Australia   AUS
Hi, I am building up a prewar Dolomite special and would love to complete the project with the correct radiator badge
Has anybody had reproduction badges made or knows the whereabouts of an available example.It is a black backed
Plaque with a coloured world globe with two female faces either side ,any help would be much appreciated.

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kmclemore Kevin M
Ambler, Pennsylvania, USA   USA
1949 Triumph Renown "Monty"
1952 MG TD MkII
1967 Morris Minor Traveller "Maurice"
1967 Sunbeam Alpine "The Bunseam"    & more
John, that's going to be pretty hard to find, and I suspect you know that already. However, there's a company in the UK that's been making bespoke badges and doing enamel restoration for many years now and has a very good reputation:

http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/

If you can borrow a badge or get a really good photo of one of the badges, or if you should find a knackered one, they can create what you need. Heck they may even have made one in the past and have the drawings... they've made 10,000 bespoke new badges over the years.

Good luck!



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saltddirk Dirk Devogeleer
Herne (SPK), BRA, Belgium   BEL
1937 Triumph Vitesse
1937 Triumph Vitesse
1949 Triumph 2000 Roadster "Goldie"
1950 Triumph Renown "Blue Lady"
Hi John,

Have you tried the Pre 1940 Triumph Motor Club?
I dont know for the dolomite, but they have Badges for my car , a 14/60 Vitesse, available for sale to Club members

Dirk

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Steptoe1950 John L
Kilsyth South, Melbourne, Australia   AUS
Hi trev, sorry for delay I have been offline for a while. I saw your car advertised on eBay a while back.It seems to be a
combination of many cars ,ford ,vanguard,mayflower and other triumph parts.Have you decided on what you want it
to look like.I have built a few specials and it is important to have a plan or design to work to otherwise it can grow into
an ugly collection of parts.You have the basis of an interesting car, I would recommend you try to locate a pre war motor
of around 1500 cc and locate period parts from swapmeets to assemble a credible prewar special that will look the part
rather than a hot rod.i can help you with some parts and advice if you would like.
John

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Steptoe1950 John L
Kilsyth South, Melbourne, Australia   AUS
Hi Dirk and Kevin M
Thanks for your replies ,I am a member of the pre 40 club and at the time I asked they had none, but I know they
are always increasing their range,I will ask again.I have found the correct rad badge for the Gloria,but the enamel
needs repair.I think there are some people in Aust who can probably fix it.
I also have a 2000 roadster which I haven't listed yet.It is very different than my other cars but it certainly get some
attention out on the road.
John L

Trev Rev Trevor R
Woombye, Queensland, Australia   AUS
1932 Triumph Scorpion "Meriel"
Hi John. Great to talk with people who have similar interests.
At this stage I want to get the car mobile again. It was functional when I bought it but the brakes were next to useless. I wondered about Bruce McLaren's famous words, "Who needs brakes, they only slow you down." I am at present building up a special mounting bracket to take a brake booster and trying to do it in such a way that the origin parts are not altered in such a way that can not be reversed back to original.
My long term goal is to do a restoration but the longer I leave it the harder it will be to find parts. Some years ago I restored a 1927 Essex and prior to that I was building single seater race cars and test driving them. With the racing in the blood not being able to see a checkered flag, there is still the urge for speed but I must try to repress it. Unfortunately the speed seed is still growing and I sometimes feel the urge to turn the Triumph into a rat rod. Must not do this as it is such a special car. I shall keep your offer of help for finding parts upper most at all times. Thanks.
Trevor.

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Steptoe1950 John L
Kilsyth South, Melbourne, Australia   AUS
Hi Trev,glad to hear you are not going to hot rod it. I would really consider whether you need a brake booster,the
original brakes if set up correctly would be adequate. I have done it and found for all the work it wasn't worth it!
I would suggest starting from scratch with the existing brakes and try them before you modify.Talking about a need for
speed I am building a 1935 racing Riley using an exGP motor and gearbox from the era,it runs four SUs and preselector
gearbox in pointy tail ally body. I hope to hill climbing in August this year.Keep in touch.
John L

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Trev Rev Trevor R
Woombye, Queensland, Australia   AUS
1932 Triumph Scorpion "Meriel"
John, I have taken a good look at the existing brakes and found them to be fully functional. After talking with some specialists I believe that the linings used are far too hard and I thought that rather than replace the linings I would boost the brakes. From what I have gathered in the way of information it seems that the original lining material was asbestos based and that most new materials are too hard for the old systems. Am I missing something here? The brakes as fitted at present are from an early Ford. In your opinion can we get the existing shoes relined with a softer material?
If I can avoid the booster it will make access to the engine bay a bit easier.
Trev.

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Steptoe1950 John L
Kilsyth South, Melbourne, Australia   AUS
Hi Trev, I have had a number of linings relined and you are right ,they are harder than the old type.Are the Ford brakes
smaller in diameter than the original? I remember asking for the softer linings but that was a few years ago. I suggest
you put it on some old car forums or ask some of the vintage car owners.But if all this leaves you with inadequate
braking then do what you have to do.
JohnL

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Trev Rev Trevor R
Woombye, Queensland, Australia   AUS
1932 Triumph Scorpion "Meriel"
OK John. I have spent a bit of time this morning talking with brake specialists and found that it is possible to have the existing brake shoes relined with a soft material. This I will try in a few weeks when time permits. The reason for the change is that I discovered this was a lot cheaper than having the replacement brake booster reconditioned. The company I talked with say they are relining shoes in soft materials for older cars on a very regular basis and having no complaints. To machine the drums and replace the linings is around $250.00. To recon the brake booster would run me out an extra $100 above that.
It seems like one of the situations where it pays to ask around and talk to the experts.
Thanks for the idea implant.
Trev.

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Steptoe1950 John L
Kilsyth South, Melbourne, Australia   AUS
Hi Trev, Glad to hear you solved the linings problem,what are you going to do about the motor and gearbox,I understand
the are 2 litre Vanguard if the came from a 2000 1949 triumph roadster.A very reliable and well supplied unit as far as
parts go,but not prewar.Technically not a problem but it would be better if it was.Are the instruments all there?Can you
send me some photos of your car for my collection of Triumph Specials.Talk to you later.
John L

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triumphtony Tony Milligan
Maroochydore, Qld, Australia   AUS
1937 Triumph Dolomite "Dolomite"
Hi Trev, I live nearby to Woombye and would like to talk Triumphs. I have a 1937 Dolomite 6 and I know a bit about brakes too. Like to make contact with you.

Trev Rev Trevor R
Woombye, Queensland, Australia   AUS
1932 Triumph Scorpion "Meriel"
Hi Tony. Thanks for the chance to chat.
My Triumph was originally believed to be a S9 without a chassis number and that caused much grief if it wanted to be registered. Over some period of time as you can see from previous blogs I tried to find the number and fell short on many occasions. After a safety check by a local mechanic I was required to do some work on a steering arm on the right side of the car. Once I got the wheel off and sat down to look at things closely I saw a number stamped on the chassis. Opposite side to where I was told to look. The number checked out as a Triumph Scorpion. So I now no longer have an S9 but rather a Scorpion.
All this did nothing for the brakes. I discovered that my car was bad on brakes no matter what you called it. The car has had some bad surgery done from time to time and the brake system is not balanced. Front axle and brakes belonged to a '34 Ford and rear axle is of unknown origin. Master cylinder could be off anything but may not have sufficient capacity to operate all wheel cylinders. Rear wheel brakes are a bit dubious to say the least. Hand brake is rather weak. If I was going to keep the car (being sold due to obtaining funds for a more original vehicle) I would undertake some serious brake redevelopment. I am not keen on spending money on what I will not be keeping.
The vehicle is a rather rare machine with a Sports Special body built by Federated Body Builders Wirths Park and some after market body and parts to boot. The engine and transmission was transplanted from a 49 Triumph 2000 roadster and I think the people that did the swap used a variety of different parts from a number of different vehicles.
For use as a club talking point and fun machine it is ideal and interesting.
Would be good to catch up for a chat and possible advice.
TrevRev.

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triumphtony Tony Milligan
Maroochydore, Qld, Australia   AUS
1937 Triumph Dolomite "Dolomite"
Travelling home now, and away again Fiday , but will contact over the weekend. Very interested to see your car and happy to show you my Dolomite

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Steptoe1950 John L
Kilsyth South, Melbourne, Australia   AUS
Hi All,thought I would share a photo of my 1939 Dolomite special for your interest.The car is original engine chassis combo and has been continuously registered since new. I have rebuilt the body since purchasing 5 years ago.
Incidentally, I recently found the origins of Trev's special mentioned earlier if any one is interested
Regards JohnL


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