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Knot Drew W
Chrishchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand   NZL
1935 Standard Nine "Carmine"
1972 Triumph Spitfire MkIV "Rattles"
Hi,

I may have the opportunity to pick up a 'barn find' (shed actually) Herald 13/60 Estate. I have seen some pictures of it and the rust worms have visited in a couple of places.

From the pictures it does appear to be pretty stock, although it is quite hard to tell as it is under 15 years of dust and grime.

I think it would make a good candidate for a full restore, but my concern is that as Estates are pretty rare here how much of it is the same as the sedan?

I realize the back half of the car will be different (panels/interior), but anything else? Could I use a sedan hood on an Estate for example?

Regards,

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Herald948 Andrew Mace
East Nassau, upstate NY, USA   USA
Yes. Other than the obvious differences in the rear body area (and the rear spring, and the gas tank), everything else is like any other Herald! So by all means, help save another (rare) Estate! If (when?) you do get it, we'd love to see photos and hear more about the car!



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Knot Drew W
Chrishchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand   NZL
1935 Standard Nine "Carmine"
1972 Triumph Spitfire MkIV "Rattles"
Perfect thank you.

I will probably be having a good check over the car on the weekend and then talking price with the owners son.

If I do manage to get it, you will be sure to hear and see pictures of it.

Regards,

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speshnz shane b
Wellington, Wellington, New Zealand   NZL
Did you manage to get hold of it in the end?


I was also under the impression the estates had slightly wider wheels stock?

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tapkaJohnD John Davies
Lancaster, Lancashire, UK   GBR
Wheels no wider, but rear spring a lot stiffer - they were supposed to be load luggers. Sprirng rate 510lbs/in, compare Herald saloon 270.
But today this is an advantage, as the stiffer spring acts to prevent jack-up, the bane of swing axle suspension. Lower the car with a spacer under the spring, and it's both a good road car, and can be a useable "recreational vehicle", and for motor sport.

For sporting use, the fuel tank is a big disadvantage. It sits under the load bed at the back, flat and wide, unlike any other Triumph, and although baffled suffers from severe fuel surge. Triumph knew this and put a tiny collector pot below the tank, from which the supply to the engine is drawn, but it's inadequate. For serious use, a swirl pot is essential.

Here's a pic of my racing estate, Silverback, rebuilt as a specialised Vitesse from a 13/60 estate

John


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speshnz shane b
Wellington, Wellington, New Zealand   NZL
In reply to # 1478333 by tapkaJohnD Wheels no wider, but rear spring a lot stiffer - they were supposed to be load luggers. Sprirng rate 510lbs/in, compare Herald saloon 270.
But today this is an advantage, as the stiffer spring acts to prevent jack-up, the bane of swing axle suspension. Lower the car with a spacer under the spring, and it's both a good road car, and can be a useable "recreational vehicle", and for motor sport.

For sporting use, the fuel tank is a big disadvantage. It sits under the load bed at the back, flat and wide, unlike any other Triumph, and although baffled suffers from severe fuel surge. Triumph knew this and put a tiny collector pot below the tank, from which the supply to the engine is drawn, but it's inadequate. For serious use, a swirl pot is essential.

Here's a pic of my racing estate, Silverback, rebuilt as a specialised Vitesse from a 13/60 estate

John


Checking my 13/60 parts manual, the canley classis and rimmerbros website, it seems that 3.5" were standard on sedans and 4.5" on the vitesse and the estate.

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